RAS President Vladimir Fortov visiting American telescopes in Antarctica, spoke about the effectiveness of Russian science and stated that there are no problems with RAS Fano, but there are problems with the ministry.
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2014 RAS President Vladimir Fortov spent in an expedition to Antarctica, where his companions became the Minister of Natural Resources and Ecology of the Russian Federation Sergey Donskoy, presidential advisor on climate change Bedritsky and presidential envoy for international cooperation in the Arctic and Antarctic Arthur Chilingarov. On Thursday in Moscow travelers told about his impressions of the trip.
– After the discovery of the South Pole scientific interest has traditionally been high, because we are talking about extreme conditions that are atypical for the majority of people on our planet and that, on the one hand, are difficult to study, on the other – promise a lot – said President of the RAS. – Study of the South Pole and Antarctica – it is always not only heroic, but the quest for knowledge. In this unique work groups.
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Speaking of scientific problems that are solved in Antarctica Forts called to investigate the interaction of the solar wind with the Earth’s surface and drilling subglacial Lake Vostok .
– This (burenie. – “Times”) gives you the opportunity, moving into the depth of the ice base to move the timeline back, because when you take samples of ice, you can judge what the temperature was, how was up, and it is very important to answer those questions that concern all of humanity: warming, cooling, cyclic or non-cyclic climate change. This is the place where there is a “first-hand information».
RAS President lamented the fact that “American colleagues” have an ambitious program of research in Antarctica.
– I want to emphasize one thing. We were shown a neutrino telescope, allowing capture neutrinos – particles that interact badly with the environment, and through the body, almost without scattering. They carry information about what is happening in the galaxy, the early moments of our part of the universe.
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It is an observatory IceCube, which work on “Times” recently told . Adjacent to this observatory on the U.S. Amundsen – Scott South Pole, there is another astronomical instrument – South Pole Telescope, plate receiving radiation in the microwave, millimeter and submillimeter ranges, ie between optical radiation and radio.
– Asked what scientific program on the telescope, we got the answer that we both pleased and disappointed – said Forts. – They said this: we check the Sunyaev-Zel’dovich theory. Rashid Sunyaev – our compatriot, a brilliant astrophysicist, winner of many awards. That is verified by the prediction of the theory, which is formulated by our scientists (more of the Sunyaev – Zel’dovich “Gazeta.ru” said Rashid Sunyaev himself. – «BBC»).
That equipment which they used partially established in the Institute of Theoretical and Experimental Physics.
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I say this to the fact that semi-conversations that we have science is inefficient, makes it impossible to be at a level – it is a lie and a lie.
In order to see this with my own eyes, it is necessary to go to Antarctica.
– About Lake Vostok drilling a lot said and written, I would emphasize that this is a priority of work that is not one, and in the field that have come up with our experts – continued Forts. – We must bow and take my hat off to those people who work for a paltry money.
Yes, I have to raise this issue: people get 70-80 thousand rubles. a month where the temperature drops to minus 80 degrees and the wind up to 200 km / h. I am convinced that the RAS should pay attention to it and to revive the program which we always were. We have the capabilities, support and interest. It is an effective height of 5000 m on me, it made a strong impression – although I was there for the second time. But I have a pride for our people, for our science. And we can not avoid to increase our presence and strengthen.
“Gazety.Ru” asked Vladimir Fortova specify which programs RAS Antarctica research question.
– We have several programs where the present Antarctic component – said Forts. – Now, as you well know, in the RAS is reform, a special agency – Fano. It now participates in the financing of different events. I just today was talking with the director Michael Fano Kotyukovym on how we run an errand Putin’s “North.” Indeed, there are indications of the country’s leader to develop work in the northern and southern areas – it’s all one unit, similar tasks. We are discussing that such a program has been put together academy program of high-tech medicine and mathematical modeling. This is what we are talking about.
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– Since we were talking about astronomy, at what stage is the question of Russia’s accession to the European Southern Observatory? Case after the reform of the RAS again “bogged down”, despite the fact that it was raised at last year’s meeting with Putin on Science?
– This question is complicated. Today reform – as it moves – reduced to the transfer of property and money from one institution to another control. But the question is deeper. Regardless of how to mark up the money – in Fano, academy or somewhere else – the objective reality is that the ability of the Academy of Sciences as research organizations are at an insufficient level. In each one of us is aging equipment, space age, there is a need for new measuring modern equipment, scientific fleet re-equipment – research ships. It’s all a lot of extra money. And this money is not allocated and not assumed. And then the connection with the Chilean telescopes: they need the money. Eventually guide Fano and RAS must count all that is, and see the money. Now I do not see them. But this does not mean that it is not necessary to achieve it. Must be sought, otherwise everything falls apart what little is left.
– Academy of Sciences will gradually prepare proposals for amendments to the law on the reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences in the course of its execution. It is now clear what it will be amended?
– Generally clear. We ask and we will ask the part of institutions in general leave the Academy to perform the function that we have under the law. We will offer more interaction with Fano, on the one hand, a clear separation of functions between Fano – on the other, and the Ministry of us – with a third party.
Today there friction on the vector “Academy – ministry”. It concerns us, is unhealthy.
We have misunderstandings and difficulties in graduate school. We believe that the Academy should be postgraduate. It’s a long conversation, but that system of awarding degrees, which today is accepted, it will lead us to chaos. Plagiarism – including. Previously, there was some hierarchy, was the advice on physics, which included scientists recognizable, everyone knows that is worth taking into account and any moral qualities. This means that the bribe is impossible in principle. Now this is not!
Later“Gazety.Ru” said the chief of the Russian Antarctic Expedition, Valery Lukin Hydromet, at what stage is the study of samples of ice from Lake Vostok. He said that the first results can be expected by the end of February: “Now microbiological studies are in PINP. We hope that the findings of last year’s core we get at the end of February. This is a very complex technological research, very thin. Results will be presented in the form of scientific articles. Everything will depend on the level of what would be done. I already know what to do but do not want to talk. Well, now I am not authorized to make such statements ».
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